Tuesday, December 13, 2016
USA Goldfoot Branch Meets South Africa Goldfoot Branch and Take DNA Test
Nadene Goldfoot
A Goldfus branch going back to Iones Goldfus (Jonah)b: c1730 was found in Telsiai, Lithuanian records obtainable through http://jewishgen.org. From this line, our family's grandfather, Nathan Abraham Goldfus b: August 5, 1872, immigrated to England, then Dublin, Ireland at the Londonderry Port "Londonderry (Irish port) bound for Quebec and Montreal in 1893 at the age of 22 where he took a ship to Winnipeg, Canada and from there managed to find his way by train in 1893, most likely, to the small mining town in the mountains of Council, Idaho. I had found him in Quebec arriving in 1893 on the ship, Parisian. Reference RG76; microfilm C-4539. He contracted to get off at Winnipeg. He was number 29520 on the ship of 8 men and 2 women passengers. Parisian was the 1st large steamer of the Allen Line taking immigrants to Canada. It weighed 5,359 tons and sailed first on May 1881. It took 13 1/4 days from Liverpool, England to Canada and took 18 days from Glasgow, Scotland.
Somehow, he managed to cross the border from Canada into the USA and arrived in Council, Idaho. There, to his surprise , he found several Jewish men, the Criss Brothers, Sam and Harry, who had married 2 sisters, Jenny and Bessie Jermulowske, sisters of Zlata "Hattie" Jermulowske. Sam and Harry had bought land in this town and were in business there. Nathan came by train and was ready to find work, most likely by peddling goods to miners. What he found was 18 year old Zlata Jermulowske, and that Zlata and her sisters were from Lazdijai, Suwalki, Lithuania which was later taken over by Poland. They spoke the same line of Yiddish.
By the time Nathan was 9 years old, there had been pogroms going on in Russia
At age 10, the May Laws of Jewish discrimination were already in place. His name was Nathan, and Natan is a Jewish name from the ten Polish Provinces of Kalisz, Kielee, Lomza, Lublin, Pietrkow, Plock, Radom, Siedlce, Suwalki, and Warsaw. Poland was partitioned in 1772, 1792 and 1795. Then it was part of Russia. Nathan must be the anglicized name.
Nathan was born at the worst period in Russian history. The 1880's was another dark period of rising anti-Semitism, expulsions from large cities and many other general restrictions. It was mandatory for Jews "to keep the same names that had been entered in the vital records." 1881 saw Alexander II assassinated causing antisemitism. Jews were traders and artisans since Middle Ages and were now restricted in Russia including much of Poland. in Pale of Jewish Settlement. Serfdom was in Russia until 1861. In 1891 22,000 Jews in chains were led from Moscow and St. Petersburg to the Pale. It was hard to leave Russia. They had to cross borders illegally into Austria/Hungary, then to Vienna or Berlin. In Hamburg, Bremen and Rotterdam, thousands tried to find passage to America, standing in long lines. Then they crowded into steerage for 2 to 4 weeks of seasickness and hundreds sharing a toilet.
In 1904 20,000 people did not pass the inspection and were sent back to Europe. Between 1881 and 1910 1.5 million Jews immigrated to USA. Of that 1 million were from Russia. Most Eastern European immigrants destined for Oregon stopped on the Lower East Side before traveling by train across the country to Portland. Others came more directly because relatives or families had already settled here.
When Nathan was living in Dublin, Ireland, he found Goldfus/Goldfoot relatives and lived with them at 13 Arbutus Place, SCR. This was the address of one of the people destined to leave later for South Africa.
There is a website from the British Isles which includes Ireland and from this I found Nathan Abraham Goldoot had married a Lena Goldberfg on Tuesday, 21 February, 1893 in Dublin. He was "a commercial traveller and his father was listed as Morris Goldfoot (dec), a distiller. He lived at 13 Arbutus Place, S.C.R. Up to this time, I never knew my grandfather even had a middle name. He had told my grandmother, Zlata, that he had been married before. There were no children. From what I can see, they weren't married or living together for very long. She was not on the ship to Canada that I could see.
In 1901 I find these 2 Goldfoots living at Arbutus Place:, Hyman , age 33, and Abraham, age 0, just born.
On Nathan's tombstone, it is engraved from information through his wife, Zlata, that his father was Chaim Itzak Goldfus. Their 2nd son was my father, Morris (Maurice) Goldfoot.
From South Africa, Ian Goldfoot immigrated to the USA and through blogging, found me. We have now had both Ian and my brother's DNA tested and we find this result.
Resource: http://jewishgen.org
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| Nathan Abraham Goldfoot b: August 5, 1872. Nochum Nathan Abraham son of Abram Goldfus Russian Federation of Telsiai/ Telshi, Kovno, Lithuania |
A Goldfus branch going back to Iones Goldfus (Jonah)b: c1730 was found in Telsiai, Lithuanian records obtainable through http://jewishgen.org. From this line, our family's grandfather, Nathan Abraham Goldfus b: August 5, 1872, immigrated to England, then Dublin, Ireland at the Londonderry Port "Londonderry (Irish port) bound for Quebec and Montreal in 1893 at the age of 22 where he took a ship to Winnipeg, Canada and from there managed to find his way by train in 1893, most likely, to the small mining town in the mountains of Council, Idaho. I had found him in Quebec arriving in 1893 on the ship, Parisian. Reference RG76; microfilm C-4539. He contracted to get off at Winnipeg. He was number 29520 on the ship of 8 men and 2 women passengers. Parisian was the 1st large steamer of the Allen Line taking immigrants to Canada. It weighed 5,359 tons and sailed first on May 1881. It took 13 1/4 days from Liverpool, England to Canada and took 18 days from Glasgow, Scotland.
Somehow, he managed to cross the border from Canada into the USA and arrived in Council, Idaho. There, to his surprise , he found several Jewish men, the Criss Brothers, Sam and Harry, who had married 2 sisters, Jenny and Bessie Jermulowske, sisters of Zlata "Hattie" Jermulowske. Sam and Harry had bought land in this town and were in business there. Nathan came by train and was ready to find work, most likely by peddling goods to miners. What he found was 18 year old Zlata Jermulowske, and that Zlata and her sisters were from Lazdijai, Suwalki, Lithuania which was later taken over by Poland. They spoke the same line of Yiddish.
By the time Nathan was 9 years old, there had been pogroms going on in Russia
At age 10, the May Laws of Jewish discrimination were already in place. His name was Nathan, and Natan is a Jewish name from the ten Polish Provinces of Kalisz, Kielee, Lomza, Lublin, Pietrkow, Plock, Radom, Siedlce, Suwalki, and Warsaw. Poland was partitioned in 1772, 1792 and 1795. Then it was part of Russia. Nathan must be the anglicized name.
Nathan was born at the worst period in Russian history. The 1880's was another dark period of rising anti-Semitism, expulsions from large cities and many other general restrictions. It was mandatory for Jews "to keep the same names that had been entered in the vital records." 1881 saw Alexander II assassinated causing antisemitism. Jews were traders and artisans since Middle Ages and were now restricted in Russia including much of Poland. in Pale of Jewish Settlement. Serfdom was in Russia until 1861. In 1891 22,000 Jews in chains were led from Moscow and St. Petersburg to the Pale. It was hard to leave Russia. They had to cross borders illegally into Austria/Hungary, then to Vienna or Berlin. In Hamburg, Bremen and Rotterdam, thousands tried to find passage to America, standing in long lines. Then they crowded into steerage for 2 to 4 weeks of seasickness and hundreds sharing a toilet.
In 1904 20,000 people did not pass the inspection and were sent back to Europe. Between 1881 and 1910 1.5 million Jews immigrated to USA. Of that 1 million were from Russia. Most Eastern European immigrants destined for Oregon stopped on the Lower East Side before traveling by train across the country to Portland. Others came more directly because relatives or families had already settled here.
When Nathan was living in Dublin, Ireland, he found Goldfus/Goldfoot relatives and lived with them at 13 Arbutus Place, SCR. This was the address of one of the people destined to leave later for South Africa.
There is a website from the British Isles which includes Ireland and from this I found Nathan Abraham Goldoot had married a Lena Goldberfg on Tuesday, 21 February, 1893 in Dublin. He was "a commercial traveller and his father was listed as Morris Goldfoot (dec), a distiller. He lived at 13 Arbutus Place, S.C.R. Up to this time, I never knew my grandfather even had a middle name. He had told my grandmother, Zlata, that he had been married before. There were no children. From what I can see, they weren't married or living together for very long. She was not on the ship to Canada that I could see.
In 1901 I find these 2 Goldfoots living at Arbutus Place:, Hyman , age 33, and Abraham, age 0, just born.
On Nathan's tombstone, it is engraved from information through his wife, Zlata, that his father was Chaim Itzak Goldfus. Their 2nd son was my father, Morris (Maurice) Goldfoot.
From South Africa, Ian Goldfoot immigrated to the USA and through blogging, found me. We have now had both Ian and my brother's DNA tested and we find this result.
David and Ian Goldfoot have the same surname and
both took the 67 allele Y haplogroup DNA test. The chart below applies to Ian and David Goldfoot
David's 389-2 is 30.
Ian's 389-2 is
29.
David's 449 is 29.
Ian's 449 is
28.
David's 464d is
17.
Ian's 464d is 16. The most likely to mismatch.
Those add up to being a distance of
3. 3 numbers off 1 each=3.
I notice they are consistent. Ian is
one number less IN EACH CASE.
David's line has mutated once more in
each case for some reason.
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A 63/67 or 64/67 match between two men who share the same
surname (or a variant) means that they are likely to share a common ancestor
within the genealogical time frame. The common ancestor is probably not
extremely recent but is likely within the range of most well-established surname
lineages in Western Europe. It is most likely that they matched 24/25, 36/37, or
37/37 on previous Y-DNA tests, and mismatches are within DYS458, DYS459, DYS449, DYS464, DYS576, DYS570, and CDY.
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Labels: DNA Y haplogroup, Goldfoot, Goldfus, South Africa, USA
